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	<title>Comments on: Skip grad school. Life is better with experience.</title>
	<link>http://modite.com/blog/2007/07/23/skip-grad-school-life-is-better-with-experience/</link>
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		<title>By: Why Grad School Is the Right Choice for Me : Brazen Careerist</title>
		<link>http://modite.com/blog/2007/07/23/skip-grad-school-life-is-better-with-experience/#comment-56061</link>
		<dc:creator>Why Grad School Is the Right Choice for Me : Brazen Careerist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2008 02:11:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://modite.com/blog/2007/07/23/skip-grad-school-life-is-better-with-experience/#comment-56061</guid>
		<description>[...] much thought, discussion, and reading (mostly in the blogosphere grad school debate), I realized that each professional decision is a personal decision. Professionals, colleagues, [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] much thought, discussion, and reading (mostly in the blogosphere grad school debate), I realized that each professional decision is a personal decision. Professionals, colleagues, [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Why I&#8217;m Going to Grad School &#171; Life Before Noon: A Millennial&#8217;s Manual</title>
		<link>http://modite.com/blog/2007/07/23/skip-grad-school-life-is-better-with-experience/#comment-55815</link>
		<dc:creator>Why I&#8217;m Going to Grad School &#171; Life Before Noon: A Millennial&#8217;s Manual</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Apr 2008 17:48:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://modite.com/blog/2007/07/23/skip-grad-school-life-is-better-with-experience/#comment-55815</guid>
		<description>[...] much thought, discussion, and reading (mostly in the blogosphere grad school debate), I realized that each professional decision is a personal decision. Professionals, colleagues, [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] much thought, discussion, and reading (mostly in the blogosphere grad school debate), I realized that each professional decision is a personal decision. Professionals, colleagues, [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Longo</title>
		<link>http://modite.com/blog/2007/07/23/skip-grad-school-life-is-better-with-experience/#comment-21587</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Longo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2008 15:13:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://modite.com/blog/2007/07/23/skip-grad-school-life-is-better-with-experience/#comment-21587</guid>
		<description>To equate the "real world" with the consumerist, materialistic, profit-driven, greed-fueled world of business that drives our modern disco ball of a society is a joke.  In this model, Britney Spears and McDonald's are gods.  In academia, on the other hand, researchers try to find deeper truths.  To me, that is a more worthy pursuit.  Graduate school can be a means to a meaningful job, not just a path a higher paying McJob.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To equate the &#8220;real world&#8221; with the consumerist, materialistic, profit-driven, greed-fueled world of business that drives our modern disco ball of a society is a joke.  In this model, Britney Spears and McDonald&#8217;s are gods.  In academia, on the other hand, researchers try to find deeper truths.  To me, that is a more worthy pursuit.  Graduate school can be a means to a meaningful job, not just a path a higher paying McJob.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Gill</title>
		<link>http://modite.com/blog/2007/07/23/skip-grad-school-life-is-better-with-experience/#comment-19373</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim Gill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jan 2008 08:00:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://modite.com/blog/2007/07/23/skip-grad-school-life-is-better-with-experience/#comment-19373</guid>
		<description>Rebecca, as you know and have stated Grad school isn't the key to everything. but it can get you a higher salary.  You should separate out the professional degrees: mba, jd, and md from other degrees.  The forementioned can double, quadruple, or even quintuple (it is a word) your salary.  This is a far cry from piled higher and deeper (phd), best,
Tim Gill</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rebecca, as you know and have stated Grad school isn&#8217;t the key to everything. but it can get you a higher salary.  You should separate out the professional degrees: mba, jd, and md from other degrees.  The forementioned can double, quadruple, or even quintuple (it is a word) your salary.  This is a far cry from piled higher and deeper (phd), best,<br />
Tim Gill</p>
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		<title>By: David ben-Avram</title>
		<link>http://modite.com/blog/2007/07/23/skip-grad-school-life-is-better-with-experience/#comment-12237</link>
		<dc:creator>David ben-Avram</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2007 04:22:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://modite.com/blog/2007/07/23/skip-grad-school-life-is-better-with-experience/#comment-12237</guid>
		<description>Argh!  I'm very conflicted with this article.  On one hand, I do want to disagree with it because I can.  And because you did in your comments.  Surely this is not the whole conversation.  Let's throw another log (or two) on the fire:  Consider that Bachelor's degrees are quickly becoming the norm in the office environment and you want to distinguish yourself.  I'd recommend to those individuals that they earn an MBA, or a professional certification (LEAN or Six Sigma come to mind) if they want to distinguish themselves from their peers and climb the ranks.  And another point to throw out...does objectivity exist?  The academics will talk this death, but let's cut the chase:  Passion, conviction and a point of view matter.  Period.  Don't give me lukewarm...give me hot or cold or I'll spit out!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Argh!  I&#8217;m very conflicted with this article.  On one hand, I do want to disagree with it because I can.  And because you did in your comments.  Surely this is not the whole conversation.  Let&#8217;s throw another log (or two) on the fire:  Consider that Bachelor&#8217;s degrees are quickly becoming the norm in the office environment and you want to distinguish yourself.  I&#8217;d recommend to those individuals that they earn an MBA, or a professional certification (LEAN or Six Sigma come to mind) if they want to distinguish themselves from their peers and climb the ranks.  And another point to throw out&#8230;does objectivity exist?  The academics will talk this death, but let&#8217;s cut the chase:  Passion, conviction and a point of view matter.  Period.  Don&#8217;t give me lukewarm&#8230;give me hot or cold or I&#8217;ll spit out!</p>
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		<title>By: John Wasinski</title>
		<link>http://modite.com/blog/2007/07/23/skip-grad-school-life-is-better-with-experience/#comment-8161</link>
		<dc:creator>John Wasinski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Nov 2007 23:50:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://modite.com/blog/2007/07/23/skip-grad-school-life-is-better-with-experience/#comment-8161</guid>
		<description>You can never go wrong if you follow your feelings.  I chose grad school more for the experience.  It felt right when I went to see it.  The program was something I was really excited about, it was cross-disciplinary and a fun field, one I like. The people were awesome.  The town felt like home.  And I made a lot of supportive friendships.  Financially?  I don't know.  It was worth it.  If you're determined, or need, great income during grad school, there's plenty of bigger schools and private schools that offer nice assistantships.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can never go wrong if you follow your feelings.  I chose grad school more for the experience.  It felt right when I went to see it.  The program was something I was really excited about, it was cross-disciplinary and a fun field, one I like. The people were awesome.  The town felt like home.  And I made a lot of supportive friendships.  Financially?  I don&#8217;t know.  It was worth it.  If you&#8217;re determined, or need, great income during grad school, there&#8217;s plenty of bigger schools and private schools that offer nice assistantships.</p>
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		<title>By: Modite - I&#8217;m featured in the New York Times!</title>
		<link>http://modite.com/blog/2007/07/23/skip-grad-school-life-is-better-with-experience/#comment-5418</link>
		<dc:creator>Modite - I&#8217;m featured in the New York Times!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2007 13:44:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://modite.com/blog/2007/07/23/skip-grad-school-life-is-better-with-experience/#comment-5418</guid>
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		<title>By: Jay</title>
		<link>http://modite.com/blog/2007/07/23/skip-grad-school-life-is-better-with-experience/#comment-1915</link>
		<dc:creator>Jay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 21:08:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://modite.com/blog/2007/07/23/skip-grad-school-life-is-better-with-experience/#comment-1915</guid>
		<description>Rebecca,

I found you via CrummyChurchSigns. Excellent blog and discussions. Although my experience as a second-year seminarian falls outside the boundaries of the normal grad school experience, I thought I'd chime in with a comment or two.

I am working toward ordination as a minister in an organization that does not require a graduate degree from a seminary (although there are other rigorous requirements). That said, I decided to enter an interdenominational seminary because I wanted to mingle with others whose beliefs didn't match with mine. What better way for a minister to prepare for living in a complex, diverse world with varying opinions than to train that way for several years?

The experience has been difficult. I work full time, as does my wife. We are both active in our church, and spend no fewer than 10 hours per week counseling, teaching and other activities for which we are responsible. Adding the demands of course reading, paper writing, learning Greek and Hebrew to an already busy schedule is taxing. Much of the material does not prepare you for the real world of church ministry, and most seminary professors will tell you this.

So, why bother? A seminary degree gives one cachet that those without it simply do not have. It enables one to move around in society and in the world of religion with less scrutiny.

But there is another reason: the knowledge one gains by enduring the difficulty of a seminary program cannot be replicated elsewhere. Rare is the person who would have the discipline to read through the core curriculum and submit a paper to a blog or academic journal. I know I'm not this sort of person.

Thanks again for an interesting discussion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rebecca,</p>
<p>I found you via CrummyChurchSigns. Excellent blog and discussions. Although my experience as a second-year seminarian falls outside the boundaries of the normal grad school experience, I thought I&#8217;d chime in with a comment or two.</p>
<p>I am working toward ordination as a minister in an organization that does not require a graduate degree from a seminary (although there are other rigorous requirements). That said, I decided to enter an interdenominational seminary because I wanted to mingle with others whose beliefs didn&#8217;t match with mine. What better way for a minister to prepare for living in a complex, diverse world with varying opinions than to train that way for several years?</p>
<p>The experience has been difficult. I work full time, as does my wife. We are both active in our church, and spend no fewer than 10 hours per week counseling, teaching and other activities for which we are responsible. Adding the demands of course reading, paper writing, learning Greek and Hebrew to an already busy schedule is taxing. Much of the material does not prepare you for the real world of church ministry, and most seminary professors will tell you this.</p>
<p>So, why bother? A seminary degree gives one cachet that those without it simply do not have. It enables one to move around in society and in the world of religion with less scrutiny.</p>
<p>But there is another reason: the knowledge one gains by enduring the difficulty of a seminary program cannot be replicated elsewhere. Rare is the person who would have the discipline to read through the core curriculum and submit a paper to a blog or academic journal. I know I&#8217;m not this sort of person.</p>
<p>Thanks again for an interesting discussion.</p>
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		<title>By: Metropolis Marvel</title>
		<link>http://modite.com/blog/2007/07/23/skip-grad-school-life-is-better-with-experience/#comment-912</link>
		<dc:creator>Metropolis Marvel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Sep 2007 03:58:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://modite.com/blog/2007/07/23/skip-grad-school-life-is-better-with-experience/#comment-912</guid>
		<description>Isn't Grad school experience?  What was your experience at graduate school?  Do you feel you have learned more from being out of school then your time at graduate school?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Isn&#8217;t Grad school experience?  What was your experience at graduate school?  Do you feel you have learned more from being out of school then your time at graduate school?</p>
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		<title>By: Mind Your Decisions Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; You are what you eat: Preferences</title>
		<link>http://modite.com/blog/2007/07/23/skip-grad-school-life-is-better-with-experience/#comment-88</link>
		<dc:creator>Mind Your Decisions Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; You are what you eat: Preferences</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jul 2007 06:08:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://modite.com/blog/2007/07/23/skip-grad-school-life-is-better-with-experience/#comment-88</guid>
		<description>[...] Preferences are the key to starting your personal finances. I don’t think financial websites emphasize this enough. For example, consider the articles “Skip Graduate School” and “Unpaid Internships are a Waste.” While the articles make valid points, their overall message is misleading. Isn’t graduate school good for some people, say, the professors who end up getting Nobel Prizes in their field? And can&#8217;t unpaid internships lead to paying full-time jobs later, or a chance to explore a non-profitable passion like a humanitarian non-profit? [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Preferences are the key to starting your personal finances. I don’t think financial websites emphasize this enough. For example, consider the articles “Skip Graduate School” and “Unpaid Internships are a Waste.” While the articles make valid points, their overall message is misleading. Isn’t graduate school good for some people, say, the professors who end up getting Nobel Prizes in their field? And can&#8217;t unpaid internships lead to paying full-time jobs later, or a chance to explore a non-profitable passion like a humanitarian non-profit? [&#8230;]</p>
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