Comments on: Gen Y women – out of the workplace woods? http://modite.com/blog/2008/03/25/gen-y-women-%e2%80%93-out-of-the-workplace-woods/ Career and life advice for the new generation Mon, 22 Mar 2010 00:03:44 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: GenY Women in the Workplace: Gossip « Heroes Rising http://modite.com/blog/2008/03/25/gen-y-women-%e2%80%93-out-of-the-workplace-woods/comment-page-1/#comment-318096 GenY Women in the Workplace: Gossip « Heroes Rising Fri, 09 Oct 2009 17:47:04 +0000 http://modite.com/blog/2008/03/25/gen-y-women-%e2%80%93-out-of-the-workplace-woods/#comment-318096 [...] complexity that is marriage and motherhood. But these stories just don’t exist about being a woman in the workplace. We need to start telling those. [...] [...] complexity that is marriage and motherhood. But these stories just don’t exist about being a woman in the workplace. We need to start telling those. [...]

]]> By: Career women should try harder – especially in the Midwest | Modite http://modite.com/blog/2008/03/25/gen-y-women-%e2%80%93-out-of-the-workplace-woods/comment-page-1/#comment-317307 Career women should try harder – especially in the Midwest | Modite Tue, 06 Oct 2009 04:09:19 +0000 http://modite.com/blog/2008/03/25/gen-y-women-%e2%80%93-out-of-the-workplace-woods/#comment-317307 [...] sniffled and agreed, maybe he was right. But I need women to be stronger role models and more outspoken – whatever path they choose. I don’t want to be afraid of motherhood. And I don’t want to be [...] [...] sniffled and agreed, maybe he was right. But I need women to be stronger role models and more outspoken – whatever path they choose. I don’t want to be afraid of motherhood. And I don’t want to be [...]

]]> By: Don’t make career plans – here’s why | Modite http://modite.com/blog/2008/03/25/gen-y-women-%e2%80%93-out-of-the-workplace-woods/comment-page-1/#comment-224611 Don’t make career plans – here’s why | Modite Tue, 24 Feb 2009 03:28:33 +0000 http://modite.com/blog/2008/03/25/gen-y-women-%e2%80%93-out-of-the-workplace-woods/#comment-224611 [...] told a couple people about this craziness – my mother, Belle, Hercules. They all humored me while explaining in a good-natured way that I shouldn’t count on [...] [...] told a couple people about this craziness – my mother, Belle, Hercules. They all humored me while explaining in a good-natured way that I shouldn’t count on [...]

]]> By: Kwang http://modite.com/blog/2008/03/25/gen-y-women-%e2%80%93-out-of-the-workplace-woods/comment-page-1/#comment-153288 Kwang Wed, 17 Sep 2008 04:37:36 +0000 http://modite.com/blog/2008/03/25/gen-y-women-%e2%80%93-out-of-the-workplace-woods/#comment-153288 This article shows some serious flaws about society. I am a firm believer that women should be at home raising children and passing on their wisdom to the next generation. It is very much in the nature of women to be caring and want to nurture others. Those are aspects that are needed to raise children. This article, and the post's afterwards seem to degrade the proffession of a homemaker. Being a homemaker is the most challenging proffesion out there in the world. You have to master many skills that people in the workplace will pay top dollar for. I heard a estimated figure that a homemaker would make over half a million dollars a year for all the skills that they have mastered. However it seems that the author and the women that posted after seem to just overlook the homemaker as a outdated proffession. Ask your grandmother how hard it is. The introduction of the working woman as the norm in society has caused a lot of problems. First it makes the richer become richer and the poor to be more poorer. When dual income familys became prevelent in the 80's manufacurers started to adjust their prices so they can get more of that money. This causes a hording of money in certain sectors of society. Here is a example, back in the 60's you could buy a nice home for under $10,000 a year, now the prices are much higher than that. The average house in LA will be close to $750,000. You can't tell me that the huge increase in price is soley due to inflation. The price for the average ware is much greater than inflation increases as well. Nowadays it is REQUIRED to have 2 incomes to support a VERY basic lifestyle. Most people don't live that lifestyle because they overspend money they don't have, thus the credit crunch we are all feeling. People are forced to spend money that they don't have to live in the same lifestyle they did 15 years ago. They don't realize that it takes a 3rd and a 4th income to have that same lifestyle. While this is a very simplistic breakdown of the "growth" of our economy, it does highlight a lot of the key points. This also causes a new thought in women. It makes them think that they can do everything that men can do. Women seem to forget that they are women, and men are men. Men since the begining of time has been the one to defend and provide for the home. Now women are more bold about what they are doing, because they know that the income they provide is a necessity to keep the family unit going. So they are more apt to going out and doing things that are wreckless to relationships. Everyone thinks that men are the ones who are cheats and lie in relationship when in fact women are the one who cheat and lie in greater numbers in todays society. I know it seems like I am blaming women for the problems we see in society and todays economy, but trust me I am not. I think men are much more at fault to allow this to happen in our society. Too many of todays men wants to go out and please women when in fact they should be acting like men and taking the reigns become the man of the household again. Todays man is too much of a pussy to do this. This article shows some serious flaws about society. I am a firm believer that women should be at home raising children and passing on their wisdom to the next generation. It is very much in the nature of women to be caring and want to nurture others. Those are aspects that are needed to raise children. This article, and the post’s afterwards seem to degrade the proffession of a homemaker.

Being a homemaker is the most challenging proffesion out there in the world. You have to master many skills that people in the workplace will pay top dollar for. I heard a estimated figure that a homemaker would make over half a million dollars a year for all the skills that they have mastered. However it seems that the author and the women that posted after seem to just overlook the homemaker as a outdated proffession. Ask your grandmother how hard it is.

The introduction of the working woman as the norm in society has caused a lot of problems. First it makes the richer become richer and the poor to be more poorer. When dual income familys became prevelent in the 80’s manufacurers started to adjust their prices so they can get more of that money. This causes a hording of money in certain sectors of society. Here is a example, back in the 60’s you could buy a nice home for under $10,000 a year, now the prices are much higher than that. The average house in LA will be close to $750,000. You can’t tell me that the huge increase in price is soley due to inflation. The price for the average ware is much greater than inflation increases as well. Nowadays it is REQUIRED to have 2 incomes to support a VERY basic lifestyle. Most people don’t live that lifestyle because they overspend money they don’t have, thus the credit crunch we are all feeling. People are forced to spend money that they don’t have to live in the same lifestyle they did 15 years ago. They don’t realize that it takes a 3rd and a 4th income to have that same lifestyle. While this is a very simplistic breakdown of the “growth” of our economy, it does highlight a lot of the key points.

This also causes a new thought in women. It makes them think that they can do everything that men can do. Women seem to forget that they are women, and men are men. Men since the begining of time has been the one to defend and provide for the home. Now women are more bold about what they are doing, because they know that the income they provide is a necessity to keep the family unit going. So they are more apt to going out and doing things that are wreckless to relationships. Everyone thinks that men are the ones who are cheats and lie in relationship when in fact women are the one who cheat and lie in greater numbers in todays society.

I know it seems like I am blaming women for the problems we see in society and todays economy, but trust me I am not. I think men are much more at fault to allow this to happen in our society. Too many of todays men wants to go out and please women when in fact they should be acting like men and taking the reigns become the man of the household again. Todays man is too much of a pussy to do this.

]]> By: Milena http://modite.com/blog/2008/03/25/gen-y-women-%e2%80%93-out-of-the-workplace-woods/comment-page-1/#comment-71293 Milena Mon, 05 May 2008 14:03:06 +0000 http://modite.com/blog/2008/03/25/gen-y-women-%e2%80%93-out-of-the-workplace-woods/#comment-71293 <i>“Being normal,” Hercules replied, “gets you a middle-class life in the suburbs. It’s fifth place, and you know you want to be in first.” All successful people then are understandably eccentric. They take risks that normal people wouldn’t.</i> I’m mildly insulted by Hercules’ premise. In fact, I want to be middle class, live in the suburbs, have a successful marriage, successful career, and not lose my mind doing it. To me, that is still “first place” if we’re labeling. Hercules’ statement suggests an objective version of success in one’s life, career, or leadership style. I think success is whatever you define it as. I end up quoting a good friend all the time, he is following a path to becoming a Catholic priest, and I’m certain he is going to change many lives. He said, “How narrowly you define your success is how widely you define your failure.” The definition of success is ever-changing and we should allow that kind of flexibility. Stepping up and stepping down is part of the process, it’s not settling. Furthermore, I think any fool can drive themselves to eccentricity, if they work hard enough and sacrifice enough. Far from being successful, in my eyes, this is a familiar model that I think is precisely why people want “normalcy” and balance. And if that is a middle class existence in the suburbs, it’s not a bad thing. “Being normal,” Hercules replied, “gets you a middle-class life in the suburbs. It’s fifth place, and you know you want to be in first.” All successful people then are understandably eccentric. They take risks that normal people wouldn’t.

I’m mildly insulted by Hercules’ premise. In fact, I want to be middle class, live in the suburbs, have a successful marriage, successful career, and not lose my mind doing it. To me, that is still “first place” if we’re labeling.

Hercules’ statement suggests an objective version of success in one’s life, career, or leadership style.

I think success is whatever you define it as. I end up quoting a good friend all the time, he is following a path to becoming a Catholic priest, and I’m certain he is going to change many lives. He said, “How narrowly you define your success is how widely you define your failure.” The definition of success is ever-changing and we should allow that kind of flexibility. Stepping up and stepping down is part of the process, it’s not settling.

Furthermore, I think any fool can drive themselves to eccentricity, if they work hard enough and sacrifice enough. Far from being successful, in my eyes, this is a familiar model that I think is precisely why people want “normalcy” and balance. And if that is a middle class existence in the suburbs, it’s not a bad thing.

]]> By: Priscilla http://modite.com/blog/2008/03/25/gen-y-women-%e2%80%93-out-of-the-workplace-woods/comment-page-1/#comment-63909 Priscilla Mon, 21 Apr 2008 21:54:01 +0000 http://modite.com/blog/2008/03/25/gen-y-women-%e2%80%93-out-of-the-workplace-woods/#comment-63909 Wow! I'm not the only one who feels this way? Wow! I’m not the only one who feels this way?

]]> By: Bubba http://modite.com/blog/2008/03/25/gen-y-women-%e2%80%93-out-of-the-workplace-woods/comment-page-1/#comment-57587 Bubba Fri, 11 Apr 2008 17:49:37 +0000 http://modite.com/blog/2008/03/25/gen-y-women-%e2%80%93-out-of-the-workplace-woods/#comment-57587 Fantastic post, I really feel that you have hit the true spirit of the Gen-Y woman on the head. I would like to offer one bit of advice to you and that is to be careful because many women develop a sort of edge or hardness when being the minority in the workplace. I understand exactly where you are coming from when you mention not being listened to because you are young and a women. I learned the importance of being excepted into the 'good old boys' club when I was in high school and the only girl in a majority of my classes (I took the auto and tech ones). The first day at the first shop I worked at I was greeted with stories of the previous two women whom had been employed there, each for under a year. There had been two women during the 20 year span of the company. Having no strong women to look up to I mimicked the men who I worked under and completely lost my feminine identity, this wasn't hard working a shop anyway. I developed a disliking for most women who were in non gender typical fields because a majority of them whom I encountered were there because they wanted to be the girl who worked with the guys or they wanted to get with the guys, not because they enjoyed or cared about the work. I developed an edge of sorts which has been carried throughout my other jobs and my course work. In college I was the only girl in all of my major specific courses. I infiltrated the good old boys club, hence my non feminine nick name. When I started my current career I went in assuming that everyone would attempt to discredit my work because I am far younger then them and I am a women. I felt as though I had to go above and beyond what would be expected from any middle aged man doing the same job. I was lucky enough to meet many women who had paid their dues and paved the way (I like to think) and now have people with whom I can discuss my current issues at work. They drilled into my head the importance of not showing a lot of emotion and for sure never crying, taking criticism with a gratitude and not letting them deter me from my current career path which I feel very passionate about. While this feeling of being constantly watched really pushed me to excel it also put a chip on my shoulder, where if I was criticized I would assume it was because I was young or female even though that isn't the case. I have seen many women fail because of this edge, which many women don't realize they have. My one piece of advice for you is to beware of this edge, it will develop without you realizing it and it will hinder you without you realizing it. Fantastic post, I really feel that you have hit the true spirit of the Gen-Y woman on the head. I would like to offer one bit of advice to you and that is to be careful because many women develop a sort of edge or hardness when being the minority in the workplace. I understand exactly where you are coming from when you mention not being listened to because you are young and a women. I learned the importance of being excepted into the ‘good old boys’ club when I was in high school and the only girl in a majority of my classes (I took the auto and tech ones). The first day at the first shop I worked at I was greeted with stories of the previous two women whom had been employed there, each for under a year. There had been two women during the 20 year span of the company. Having no strong women to look up to I mimicked the men who I worked under and completely lost my feminine identity, this wasn’t hard working a shop anyway. I developed a disliking for most women who were in non gender typical fields because a majority of them whom I encountered were there because they wanted to be the girl who worked with the guys or they wanted to get with the guys, not because they enjoyed or cared about the work. I developed an edge of sorts which has been carried throughout my other jobs and my course work. In college I was the only girl in all of my major specific courses. I infiltrated the good old boys club, hence my non feminine nick name.

When I started my current career I went in assuming that everyone would attempt to discredit my work because I am far younger then them and I am a women. I felt as though I had to go above and beyond what would be expected from any middle aged man doing the same job. I was lucky enough to meet many women who had paid their dues and paved the way (I like to think) and now have people with whom I can discuss my current issues at work. They drilled into my head the importance of not showing a lot of emotion and for sure never crying, taking criticism with a gratitude and not letting them deter me from my current career path which I feel very passionate about.

While this feeling of being constantly watched really pushed me to excel it also put a chip on my shoulder, where if I was criticized I would assume it was because I was young or female even though that isn’t the case. I have seen many women fail because of this edge, which many women don’t realize they have.

My one piece of advice for you is to beware of this edge, it will develop without you realizing it and it will hinder you without you realizing it.

]]> By: What’s Life Got to Do With It? Career & Identity Confessions of a Bride-to-Be « Little Red Suit http://modite.com/blog/2008/03/25/gen-y-women-%e2%80%93-out-of-the-workplace-woods/comment-page-1/#comment-55013 What’s Life Got to Do With It? Career & Identity Confessions of a Bride-to-Be « Little Red Suit Mon, 07 Apr 2008 17:45:46 +0000 http://modite.com/blog/2008/03/25/gen-y-women-%e2%80%93-out-of-the-workplace-woods/#comment-55013 [...] fiancé, whose opinion out of love I choose to weigh with equal or more weight than my own. I’m a forward-thinking gal. One who’s got quite a bit of social capital, personal branding, and presence revolving around [...] [...] fiancé, whose opinion out of love I choose to weigh with equal or more weight than my own. I’m a forward-thinking gal. One who’s got quite a bit of social capital, personal branding, and presence revolving around [...]

]]> By: Girl Meets Business | Gen Y Women: Change starts with us http://modite.com/blog/2008/03/25/gen-y-women-%e2%80%93-out-of-the-workplace-woods/comment-page-1/#comment-53390 Girl Meets Business | Gen Y Women: Change starts with us Sat, 05 Apr 2008 14:53:00 +0000 http://modite.com/blog/2008/03/25/gen-y-women-%e2%80%93-out-of-the-workplace-woods/#comment-53390 [...] week Rebecca of Modite said that Gen Y women will have to “breed a new form of feminism” as a way to combat the casual sexism that Monica recently wrote about on Twenty [...] [...] week Rebecca of Modite said that Gen Y women will have to “breed a new form of feminism” as a way to combat the casual sexism that Monica recently wrote about on Twenty [...]

]]> By: Personal PR & Identity Confessions of a Bride-to-Be at Personal PR http://modite.com/blog/2008/03/25/gen-y-women-%e2%80%93-out-of-the-workplace-woods/comment-page-1/#comment-52913 Personal PR & Identity Confessions of a Bride-to-Be at Personal PR Fri, 04 Apr 2008 23:37:48 +0000 http://modite.com/blog/2008/03/25/gen-y-women-%e2%80%93-out-of-the-workplace-woods/#comment-52913 [...] whose opinion out of love I choose to weigh with equal or more weight than my own. I’m a forward-thinking gal. One who’s got quite a bit of social capital, personal branding, and presence revolving [...] [...] whose opinion out of love I choose to weigh with equal or more weight than my own. I’m a forward-thinking gal. One who’s got quite a bit of social capital, personal branding, and presence revolving [...]

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